06 November 2014 - CalSouthern PSYCHOLOGY

Integral Recovery and Addiction featuring John Dupuy and Dr. Bob Weathers pt.2

Bio: John Dupuy is the founder of Integral Recovery, a revolutionary approach to the treatment of addiction and alcoholism. He has over two decades' ...

it's good to continue the conversation

here I mean sitting with John dupuis author and founder of integral recovery as a as a new movement I love how you talk about it's it's holistic a holistic approach with a map yeah John we have lunch and we talked about this bit over lunch what differentiates integral recovery as a model from all the other models that are out there and I know there's a lot of different answers but I liked your answer at lunchtime and what if you might amplify that just for a few minutes here right now to talk about great thank you for asking integral recovery is a practice and the maps applied ken wilber one time sediment conversation that the map is psycho acted in other words you get all these different parts it just changes the way you observe and understand and interact with the world that's very important but where the rubber really meets the road are the practices the integral transformative recovery life practices and this is not just for your eight weeks in treatment or your six weeks or your 28 days or something this is a lifetime commitment to ongoing practice and the practices cover a strong body healthy body strong mind intellect

emotional health and spiritual depth and that is just not something you get by dumb luck or good genes or because your bar on the right place at the right time that can all help but it really has to be cultivated and it is I I am somebody said he's not only the thinker of this thing but I'm a chief practitioner and I try to base everything in the practice in the practice because I don't believe you can lead where you're not willing to go and so I do my average practice is an hour meditation a day and I use brain entrainment technology that takes me into very deep meditative States have been doing it for approaching 10 years now for a decade and it is it's made all the difference and I knew something about meditation before I study transpersonal psychology and I've always been very interested in the spiritual aspects but it was more intellectual well this has really grounded it and in that interior practice we deal and release somatically the trauma we built up it increases our our mental acuity we have greater cognitive function creativity connectedness we can deal with all our motions negative positive much more healthy ways in other

words not clasping grasping onto that and a lifetime commitment to being a appellee in other words at your you know work towards your being in the best finished shape that you can be and so you could be 85 or 90 years old but if you've done the work you put in the time it's going to be a vital 80 or 90 it's still going to be in the game and you just have to begin to make that axial in other words we don't do that too much now the people that we really admire say Michael Jordan's or there's another Bruce Lee Jimi Hendrix on the guitar Eric Clapton a hero of mine now these people were fanatics about practice and the old story was how god they're just so gifted they're just so talented you know they are however all that gifting and talent ISM would have been got them nowhere if they hadn't put in the time the hour and hour of dedicated practice showing up every day and pushing yourself just a little beyond your comfort zone and this is not just my experience though it is there's just a whole body of literature now that is developing about the benefits of practice and how practice you can achieve so much than you ever dreamed of

in whatever area that you're that you're emphasizing and an intrical recovery using healthy body healthy mind healthy emotions and healthy spiritual life and that's not just a good thought or a belief system it's something you do daily it's good thank you I want to ask a questions related to that in terms of practice I know that you can expand on this is that I'm aware of certainly talk and integrating the shadow and that that becomes part of the practice I wonder if you'd be willing to comment on that in the context of interval of recovery what does shadow work look like any comments at all yeah well shadow is something that that is so painful that consciously for some reason we don't want to deal with it say we were abused two children or had something that happened in combat or we just grew up in a mostly unsupportive kind of toxic environment our family and it's very painful and perhaps at the time it's happening we don't have the resources or we don't have the capacity to know what to do with it so we we shut it off and it becomes shadow so we have the the part that we're aware a moment to moment our thoughts and what we're doing the world

around us and we have all this shadow material that's not in the light of awareness that's doing all kinds of things okay and we're talking about a pathological shadow and there's also a light shadow but on the pathological side of the street it can cause depression it can cause a somatic problems it can cause addiction cravings inappropriate sexual acting out all sorts of things and so and often it's those shadow painful issues that we're avoiding that God is using abusing in the first place that started the whole progression in the whole the whole journey of addiction into the into the pit and so we have to be able to deal with that and in the type of practice that we do the meditation practice with the dis enhanced brain entrainment technology that we use it has a remarkable capacity for integrating the mind the heart the body and bringing up these these shadow issues both psychological perhaps conditioning bad ideas we have about reality ourselves a nature of the world others and where we can actually allow them to come up do their thing they release as bodily felt sensations often there's a whole story

we kind of bracket the stories because if we stay with the stories we get stuck in it like the rat on the wheel just running around in circles so we kind of okay thank you for sharing mine and you stay with this and they release and get through level and level and level of our own trauma and so we're the depressions begin to live the cravings lesson all that energy takes a lot of energy to keep these dragons in the basement and so we don't have to keep them anymore if we come out we've transmitted or train them and release them and now it's actually positive energy for our growth and health and happiness and creativity that's great thank you thank you very much too

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